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AWD and Torque Vectoring . . . Is this the new RWD?


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#1 OFFLINE   Radmanna

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 03:29 AM

Hello.

Questions please about the 2017 Continental being offered in AWD and with the AWD using torque vectoring.  I'm interested because I'm still driving a 2001 Grand Marquis, and I really like RWD.

 

1.  With the premium turbo motor, the AWD with TV will be standard.  Will the Continental that comes with a non-turbo V6 engine (3.7 Liter?) be offered with an available AWD with TV?

 

2.  Is the AWD with TV the constant configuration as to how power is channeled to all four wheels, or is the AWD only engaged when it is manually turned on (with a switch?) by the driver?  In other words, would the AWD with TV be engaged 24/7 and regardless of weather and terrain?

 

3.  Does anyone have experience with AWD that works with torque vectoring?

 

4.  What are your comments about Lincoln Continental's AWD with TV? 

 

5.  Will this become the standard for AWD in the future for all AWD cars?  Is the next best thing to having a RWD?



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Posted 21 February 2016 - 04:29 PM

I have an AWD MKS and it does not have torque vectoring so I cannot answer your all of your questions.  Based on the press release, it appears that TV is included with the AWD and I cannot imagine it not being available with all engines but I do not know for sure.  There is no switch to turn it on.  It is a seamless system that works automatically depending upon throttle position, whether the car is going straight or turning as well as other factors.  And no, there is not a constant configuration of how power is transmitted to the four wheels.  It varies depending upon the situation.

 

However, I am curious about why you like RWD on a car like a Continental or a 2001 Grand Marquis.  I understand the desire for RWD on a sports-type car like a Mustang or even on a sports sedan like a BMW 3 series.  Other than the potential for less front overhang and possible styling benefits, I don't quite understand the desire for RWD on a larger luxury biased vehicle.

 

Why do you feel that RWD is superior and that AWD with TV might be "the next best thing" to having it?



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Posted 22 February 2016 - 05:34 PM

Lincoln Motor Company will be on here soon to answer your questions concerning the 2017 Continental.



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Posted 22 February 2016 - 05:40 PM

I have an AWD MKS and it does not have torque vectoring so I cannot answer your all of your questions.  Based on the press release, it appears that TV is included with the AWD and I cannot imagine it not being available with all engines but I do not know for sure.  There is no switch to turn it on.  It is a seamless system that works automatically depending upon throttle position, whether the car is going straight or turning as well as other factors.  And no, there is not a constant configuration of how power is transmitted to the four wheels.  It varies depending upon the situation.

 

However, I am curious about why you like RWD on a car like a Continental or a 2001 Grand Marquis.  I understand the desire for RWD on a sports-type car like a Mustang or even on a sports sedan like a BMW 3 series.  Other than the potential for less front overhang and possible styling benefits, I don't quite understand the desire for RWD on a larger luxury biased vehicle.

 

Why do you feel that RWD is superior and that AWD with TV might be "the next best thing" to having it?

 

Are you considering getting a Lincoln Continental?



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Posted 22 February 2016 - 09:04 PM

I plan to replace my MKS with a Continental equipped with the Reserve package and the 3.0.   The only thing that would derail that plan would be if the Continental pricing is higher than I anticipate.  If so, I will probably go with the MKZ, Reserve and 3.0.  


Edited by brucelinc, 23 February 2016 - 03:07 PM.


#6 OFFLINE   LincolnClient

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Posted 08 March 2016 - 07:14 PM

Lincoln Motor Company will be on here soon to answer your questions concerning the 2017 Continental.

 

We've arrived, Robert!  :)

 

Todd



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Posted 09 March 2016 - 03:11 PM

My dealer provided me with a very nice large brochure on the 2017 Continental.  It appeared to be designed for dealership training but it outlined the option packages, colors, standard equipment, etc.  All I need now is pricing information and the dealer thought it would likely be April or May before that would be available.  

 

So far, I like what I see.  



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Posted 10 March 2016 - 05:42 PM

We've arrived, Robert!  :)

 

Todd

Welcome to the site Todd



#9 OFFLINE   LincolnClient

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Posted 11 March 2016 - 04:56 PM

Welcome to the site Todd

Thanks, Thomas. I'm delighted to be here and answer any questions that may come up.

 

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Posted 21 March 2016 - 12:55 AM


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#11 OFFLINE   Twinguin

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Posted 13 December 2016 - 02:43 PM

I'm delighted to be here and answer any questions that may come up.

 

Todd

 

Hi, question on the AWD and torque vectoring: It's said / advertised that the AWD system is similar to (or even the same as) the Focus RS' system. Now, if that's the case, where is the track and drift mode hidden in the menu?  B)


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Posted 05 April 2017 - 10:57 PM

Hi, question on the AWD and torque vectoring: It's said / advertised that the AWD system is similar to (or even the same as) the Focus RS' system. Now, if that's the case, where is the track and drift mode hidden in the menu?  B)

I don't know about track and drift modes, but there are 2 AWD systems available for the 2017 Continental in Canada, so I presume the same for the US. I read an article on how these systems work which is as follows (if I understood correctly):

 

The 3 liter engine option comes with the torque vectoring system and a higher numerical final drive (3.39) for lower gearing and faster acceleration. The torque vectoring overspeeds as necessary each rear axle gear (outboard and supplemental to the differential). The TV system always drives 4 wheels.

 

The 2.7 liter engine comes with the Inteligent AWD system using a 2.77 final drive for more fuel economy and normally drives the front axle. Depending on conditions the torque can be split front to rear up to 100%.

 

I have not driven the TV system but the Intelligent AWD I drove in the winter snow and slush is very effective. No slipping or sliding in straights or turns.  



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Posted 06 April 2017 - 01:32 AM

Even the 3.0 with TV utilizes the intelligent AWD system. It is FWD until conditions call for torque to be sent to the rear. What the TV does is send more torque to the outside rear when cornering and applying throttle. There is a gauge in the instrument cluster that shows where the torque is being applied.

As you said, winter traction is excellent with these systems. The TV does improve dry weather handling but you have to push the car pretty good to really experience it.

Edited by brucelinc, 06 April 2017 - 01:35 AM.


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Posted 06 April 2017 - 12:08 PM

Yes, I like the little torque vect gauge as well. Problem is, that when driven properly, I cannot take my eyes off the road, to see the vectoring in action. I can say, that it handles brilliantly for such a big car.

 

And my inital comment was about the Focus RS' torque vectoring, that is more RWD biased in Sport Mode. 


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