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#1 OFFLINE   brucelinc

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 03:22 PM

One year ago this week I replaced my 2010 MKS ecoboost with a Continental Reserve 3.0 with tech and Climate packages, 30 way seats and Revel sound system.  Since then we have driven around 12,000 miles including a trip from Minneapolis to Dallas, a few shorter trips around the midwest and about 25 trips down the quarter mile at local drag strips.    The car has had 2 warranty claims - one for a power seat module and another for a new instrument cluster.  In both cases, dealer service was excellent and I was given a free loaner.  

 

If I bought cars based on exterior styling, the Conti would not be considered.   Although pleasant looking, I think they are far too bland.  I am glad they avoided huge grotesque grills like Lexus or goofy droopy headlights like Cadillac but I think they should have been far more adventurous in design.  My idea of exterior beauty is more along the lines of Jaguar XJ or Aston Martin Rapide styling.   Personally, I think the first generation MKS was far more attractive than the Conti in spite of being too tall and having too much front overhang.    The exterior fit and finish is very good on the Conti, however, with tighter and more consistent panel gaps than the MKS.

 

The interior of the Conti is extremely comfortable with lots of room and all features are extremely friendly to use.   The tech all works flawlessly and I appreciate the buttons for the most used features and not needing to put fingerprints on the center screen.  Interior fit and finish is excellent and materials are great except for the rear seat pass-through which is hard black plastic.  (I covered mine with cloth matching the interior color.)   The 30 way seats are fabulous.  We drove from Dallas to Minneapolis in one day and I was not even tired.  The ability to support each thigh individually, vary the lumbar and bolstering, and obtain a nice massage every couple of hours or so make a huge difference.   I do think they should make the instrument cluster and center screen more configurable.  The 2018 Mustang cluster is far better than the Conti.  The center screen could also be larger but still integrated into the dash.  Lastly, I wish they would allow customer choice of interior wood.

 

The 3.0 is a quieter engine than the first gen 3.5 ecoboost.  It also provides excellent and smooth power...effortless as they say.   The 6F55 transmission shifts smoothly, never hunts for gears and kicks down quickly for passing.  However, it does have 2 major flaws.  In stock tune, upshifts under WOT are terrible...power is cut before, during and after the shift resulting in surging and sagging instead of steady power delivery.   In spite of the 3.0 making more power and torque than the 3.5 and the Conti benefiting from  a 3.39 gear vs 2.77 in the MKS, the Conti is only .2 seconds quicker in the quarter mile.   They put this nice engine in the car and then dumbed it down due to the transmission.   The other flaw is too many RPM at cruising speeds with the 3.39 gearing.   The way it is geared currently, the Conti uses more fuel on the highway than the MKS did with its 2.77 gear.   I solved the terrible WOT upshifting with a tune but no other Conti owners will do that and risk the warranty.    It needs the 8 speed transmission for sure.

 

The Conti rides well and is relatively quiet but I think there is room for improvement in both of those areas.  Compared with our 2014 Taurus or my old MKS, the comfort setting on the Conti is slightly more compliant than either of those.   The normal setting is a bit stiffer than our Taurus and the sport setting is almost harsh on our nasty Minneapolis streets.    In terms of quietness, the Conti is again slightly better than our Taurus or my old MKS.   It actually has a bit more tire thump over poor pavement but that is likely due to less noise overall resulting in the tire thump being more noticeable.  The handling precision and steering of the Conti is MUCH better than the MKS or Taurus.    The adaptive steering and dynamic torque vectoring make the Conti surprisingly nimble and even playful in the twisties.

 

I am glad I bought the Conti and I do like it.  However, I doubt if I keep it as long as I did the MKS.  Lincoln's current strategy of focusing on customer experience is useless to me.   I am probably more of a Ford customer in spite of my last 3 cars being Lincolns.   Since we will always have a 4 door sedan like our current Taurus for my wife,  my next car will hopefully be either a Mustang GT or GT 500.  


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#2 OFFLINE   1BlinkGone

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Posted 31 December 2017 - 09:47 AM

Thanks for your report, Brucelinc.  As enamored as I am with the new Continental, you hit on every area as reason to hesitate to commit to purchase for myself; as well as your two warranty issues, which in fairness for a new model isn't surprising nor terrible. There are so many plusses it's a shame they missed an opportunity to really shine.

 

I hope that Lincoln will take the Continental to the next logical step and really refine, upgrade and improve it.  As well as develop a RWD platform for it. If they do, I'm sure many will spring for it.


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#3 OFFLINE   brucelinc

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Posted 31 December 2017 - 04:03 PM

While I do not like warranty issues, those don't bother me much.   They both occurred early during ownership and were handled perfectly by the dealer.     There have been no other issues.

 

I think the Continental was a good step in getting Lincoln back to relevance but I consider it a 2nd to 3rd base hit and not a home run by any means.  If they ever get the 8 speed transmission, that should improve both performance and fuel economy.   It will probably take a new platform to really get the ride and quietness to the next level.  

 

If my review sounded negative, it might be because my expectations were pretty high.  My old MKS exceeded my expectations in about every way.   I was expecting the Conti to be a significant step beyond the MKS.  It is quite a bit better in some ways but overall, it is not the upgrade that I expected.   


Edited by brucelinc, 31 December 2017 - 04:12 PM.


#4 OFFLINE   1BlinkGone

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 08:40 AM

While I do not like warranty issues, those don't bother me much.   They both occurred early during ownership and were handled perfectly by the dealer.     There have been no other issues.

 

I think the Continental was a good step in getting Lincoln back to relevance but I consider it a 2nd to 3rd base hit and not a home run by any means.  If they ever get the 8 speed transmission, that should improve both performance and fuel economy.   It will probably take a new platform to really get the ride and quietness to the next level.  

 

If my review sounded negative, it might be because my expectations were pretty high.  My old MKS exceeded my expectations in about every way.   I was expecting the Conti to be a significant step beyond the MKS.  It is quite a bit better in some ways but overall, it is not the upgrade that I expected.   

No not negative at all. The warranty issues are minor all things considered. For a 1st year production run car it has performed well. Your synopsis that I just quoted above pretty much lays it out. Not a bad car at all, and rather good; but in light of your MKS the Continental as a flagship should be in a class by itself. Not quite yet. And i really want it to be.

 

Thanks, brucelinc! 


Edited by 1BlinkGone, 02 January 2018 - 08:41 AM.

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#5 OFFLINE   brucelinc

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 03:01 PM

One other thing:   I recently received an offer of a $75 Visa gift card if I would test drive a Volvo S90 so I  took advantage of the offer.   The  Volvo has a beautiful interior for sure.  It was quite comfortable and drove well.  However, in terms of ride and quiet, it was not quite as good as my Continental.    The 4 cylinder engine was noisier and somewhat gritty sounding and performance wasn't even in the same league as the 3.0 in my Continental.

 

Point being that while there is certainly room for improvement with the Continental, it still stacks up pretty well.


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#6 OFFLINE   Twinguin

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Posted 04 January 2018 - 04:43 PM

Agree with Brucelinc, the Conti is a very fine car. Period. For me it was unexpected fun, as the 3.0 has enough "Omph" to make it basically a sleeper (brucelinc proved that on the drag strip as well). And even after a year people would come up at parking lots / gas stations and ask about the car.

 

I miss the seats and the comfy ride - but every time I fire up that V8 and/or open the roof the big grin appears. The Mustang is the car for the inner child.

 

My wife actually ordered a Continental as her next lease car, so we'll have one in the family again. Flatrock Rocks!


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#7 OFFLINE   1BlinkGone

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Posted 07 January 2018 - 11:00 PM

One other thing:   I recently received an offer of a $75 Visa gift card if I would test drive a Volvo S90 so I  took advantage of the offer.   The  Volvo has a beautiful interior for sure.  It was quite comfortable and drove well.  However, in terms of ride and quiet, it was not quite as good as my Continental.    The 4 cylinder engine was noisier and somewhat gritty sounding and performance wasn't even in the same league as the 3.0 in my Continental.

 

Point being that while there is certainly room for improvement with the Continental, it still stacks up pretty well.

 

Great report. Not surprised that the Conti bested the Volvo's ride. For me I can't get past that 4-cyl overboosted coffee grinder they are now using in everything Volvo.


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#8 OFFLINE   brucelinc

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 02:54 PM

I should also mention another feature that I really like on the Continental - the power cinch doors.   Every time I get in a car without them, I have to take 2 tries at closing the doors.  It is not that I am a weakling.  It is just that I have gotten accustomed to getting in the car and gently pulling the door to the first latch position and then the door closes itself.   This seems like very minor thing but I sure like it.  Also, not sure what I would do without the hands free trunk, either!


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Posted 08 January 2018 - 06:47 PM

Agree! Muscle memory is very strong. Even after a month w/o my LinConti I still kick the rear bumper in vain. And I miss the welcome lights.


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Posted 25 May 2018 - 04:49 PM

I have a reserve, 2.7. Nice car but the dealer service really stinks. It's a $56.000 car and you would think it was a old Yugo. The service sucks.






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